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Post subject:   PostPosted: Apr 16, 2007 - 05:07 AM
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robertthebald wrote:
Thanks for the encouragement guys. I wish I could be more helpful with some of the specific requests (Glendower had a dungeon?). Blackmoor had so many things going on through its history, not to mention all of the different areas available.If you talked to two different people from the old campaign, you might wonder if they were talking about the same game. I have contacted some of the other players with rather mixed results so far. A couple of them did seem to be interested. I will keep trying.


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Post subject:   PostPosted: Apr 16, 2007 - 11:56 AM
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Havard,
Just a quick post today. I have been on the phone, e-mailing, and talking to people in person all weekend. I just finished a phone conversation with a couple of them this morning. I am hopeful that we will have more contributions fairly soon. Have to go get some sleep now (I work nights). I will post a story soon on Robert the Bald, where he moved down south on the Outdoor Survival map. Trying to gather some more information first.
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Apr 17, 2007 - 01:53 PM
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Yes, Bob makes a good point. At some point (probably in 1975 give or take a year) Uther granted many of his loyal servants their own fiefs. Since the original Blackmoor area was already occupied, the new fiefs were created in the south. An area we called "province one". Dave simply placed the map from Avalon Hill's "Outdoor Survival" game next to the Blackmoor map and showed us which hex had our new fief in it. The area was roughly where the Eastern Hak is located on "modern" maps of Blackmoor. This would probably have been an area that had been secured from the Thonian Empire by the Kingdom of Blackmoor in the War for Blackmoor's Independence (that's speculation on my part as I don't really remember anymore). We then spent many gaming sessions exploring and securing our new Baronies and their surrounding areas. Newgate was originally located there. It was the first fief you came to as you traveled into the area from Blackmoor, so it was referred to as the gateway to the new region and its name bacame Newgate. Svenny was very active and systematic in searching the area surrounding Newgate to destroy all of the evil or dangerous creatures in the vacinity. Trying to make it a safe place...

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The information you guys just shared is gold! I had no idea Dave used the Outdoor Survival Guilde map as a basis for the southern region. I know the official Blackmoor also uses the term 'new baronies' (or something) for the southern fiefdoms such as Robert the Bald's lands (Cloudtop Castle), Dragonia and the Dragonhills. I didn't think Newgate was included here.

I'd love to hear more about both of your fiefdoms. How did you imagine them? Why is Robert's land so far from the others? Is it because he is a reclusive wizard? Has he gone off exploring the nearby Valley of the Ancients?

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In contacting and talking to the other original players, I am learning more about Blackmoor than I knew back when I was playing it. I have contacted, or can account for, about twenty of the people in the list of original players.At least one is a gold mine of information, but for various reasons can not post on any of these forums. I will have to drag him over to my house and do it from here. As it is now summer, and I have more than I care to think about to do outside, this may not happen for some time. I found an interesting pdf over at The Wayfarers Inn forum.
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/zimriel/Blackmoor/
I think it is worth looking at.

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robertthebald wrote:
In contacting and talking to the other original players, I am learning more about Blackmoor than I knew back when I was playing it. I have contacted, or can account for, about twenty of the people in the list of original players.At least one is a gold mine of information, but for various reasons can not post on any of these forums. I will have to drag him over to my house and do it from here. As it is now summer, and I have more than I care to think about to do outside, this may not happen for some time. I found an interesting pdf over at The Wayfarers Inn forum.
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/zimriel/Blackmoor/
I think it is worth looking at.


Thanks for the effort Bob! I am really looking forward to hearing more from you and your mysterious co-player!

The site from the link you provide is indeed great. David Ross did an excellent job there. For years that was my main source of information about Blackmoor, before I got ahold of the DA-series, the FFC and finally the ZGG stuff. Smile

I recommend everyone who hasn't already to go check it out.

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Robert the Bald's origins are obscure. I stayed away from "politics" and the towns as much as possible: virtually all of my adventuring was outdoors. When the big move was made to the southern provinces, I was very much in my element. As I had the experience and desire, I was located in a particularly isolated and wild area. I raised my own small army of well trained cavalry, and soon cleared out and pacified my Barony. I continued my adventures and quickly went up in levels. When the others ran into problems, I would go help them out, and when a large force attempted to invade the area, I leant my army to Greg and the Sniders to help defeat it. I did indeed go the the Valley of the Ancients, but no longer remember the adventure, other than it was a disaster that decimated the players that went. I also had an adventure in the mountains nearby that I think had something to do with the Ancients, as the Sniders and I investigated some strange doings in some huge caverns we discovered and ran into some very strange things that could have come from the Valley. This was also disasterous, and I believe this was when the yellow mist ended up covering John's area. Personally, I not only survived these adventures, but I acquired enough interesting things to study that I ended up locked away in my tower studying them. This all proved to be my undoing, as I was the first of the original players (and one of only two I am aware of) to reach the highest possible level in David's rules. When I asked David what happened now, he told me that"The Gods welcome me". I lost Robert the Bald to David's control and had to start a new character. David has called me Duke (see the special acknowledgements page in the Adventures in Fantasy books); this probably dates from this time.

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As I recall, Robert the Bald was the first character to reach the highest level Dave would allow. Richard Snider's character was also promoted out of play sometime shortly after that. I think that I was so horrified by the thought that I could lose Svenny that I stopped trying to gain experience. I might have been a bit too attached to my character...

I think that there were six new baronies on the outdoor survival map. Bob's, Richard Snider's, John Snider's and Svenny's Baronies, of course. I can't remember who had the other two new Baronies. It was most likely Dave Megarry and one of the Belfry brothers (Scott or Dave), but I am not sure anymore.

Newgate was originally further south and was placed further north with the ZG effort to define Blackmoor in a way that was compatable with the various other settings it has been tied to. The original Newgate was not nearly as well developed as the new Newgate has been. I wrote up some fairly extensive material on the Barony of Newgate for ZG a couple of years ago. I had hoped that it would be put out as a free PDF, but they had other plans for it. We will have to wait and see...

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gsvenson wrote:

I wrote up some fairly extensive material on the Barony of Newgate for ZG a couple of years ago. I had hoped that it would be put out as a free PDF, but they had other plans for it. We will have to wait and see...


We haven't forgotten about that Greg. Smile

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DClingman wrote:
gsvenson wrote:

I wrote up some fairly extensive material on the Barony of Newgate for ZG a couple of years ago. I had hoped that it would be put out as a free PDF, but they had other plans for it. We will have to wait and see...


We haven't forgotten about that Greg. Smile

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Thanks, I am glad to hear it!

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Finally got the chance to read the thread in detail.

Amazing, just amazign. Please keep the info coming! Smile

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DClingman wrote:
gsvenson wrote:

I wrote up some fairly extensive material on the Barony of Newgate for ZG a couple of years ago. I had hoped that it would be put out as a free PDF, but they had other plans for it. We will have to wait and see...


We haven't forgotten about that Greg. Smile

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Wow! I'd be very interested in seeing something like that Smile





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I know it has been a month since my last posting to this site. I was hoping that some of the other people I contacted would be able to come in and post their own stories. Unfortunately, some of them have had difficulty registering here. This is not just the site, but an almost total unfamiliarity with forums in general. They have all talked about their lack of time for this, and their lack of memory. I found it interesting in talking to them, that they each had their own little fragment of the story. If I had the time and resources I could piece together quite a bit of what happened. I have a vacation coming up in November when I hope to be able to devote more time to this. In the meantime, I have become involved in posting to The Wayfarers Inn (http://wayfarer.myfreeforum.org/). Greg also posts there, and Richard Snider has his own thread there. I will not abandon this, it will just take a while for me to continue on this.
One of my projects for November will be posting the Wizard of the Woods story here. I asked him how he got the name. He said that the small woods just outside of Blackmoor town looked like a logical place for a wizard to locate himself. So that is what he did, hence the name. By the way, this wood on the tabletop had some model trees that had some apples(?) in them. These kept falling off, and Peter(or someone) decided to use them in the game. They become magic berries that were used in many ways. Funny how things in the game came from the most mundane things.
Thank you for your patience.
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Too bad there won't be more people joining you guys. Anyway, I enjoyed hearing about the Wizard of the Woods. I always assumed this was a specific title. One that perhaps came with some special powers as well. Such as that sylvan creatures would show him obedience etc. I am considering doing something like that IMC. Smile

I'll also pick up the idea about the magic berries. Perhaps the Wizard of the Woods manufactures such berries...

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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 23, 2007 - 06:05 PM
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I am sorry that I have neglected this for so long. I guess I have been busy, between a business trip to Tempe, AZ for a week (I don't travel well anymore) and the stuff at Dragonsfoot, I have been a bit preoccupied.

My recollection is that the Glendower dungeon was pretty small. It took only one adventure to clean it out. But during the same adventure (or perhaps the next one, which we played on the same day-we usually started at about 1 pm often went until 3 or 4 am) we discovered a dragon temple south of the city that led to the legend of the flying monk, Brother Richard, who was played by Richard Snider. Richard is also the author of Avalon Hill's "Power and Perils" game and co-author of Adventure Games' "Adventures in Fantasy" game, if I remember correctly - memory is a terrible thing to lose...

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